let's go first to the issue of what is happening in cairo and benghazi and hopefully it will be contained there but these, this storming of our embassy, the burning of our consulate, this is not the stuff of an arab spring, is it? >> no this is radical islamic wave cresting in the middle east. and i think anybody who remembers the takeover of our embassy in tehran in 1979 has to be chilled at the picture of people standing on top of the walls of our embassy in cairo and reports that fire has damaged or destroyed the consulate in benghazi. we better be prepared for something worse coming in the next several days at a minimum. i think it is time to tell the government of egypt, their security forces could have prevented this and we expect them to be prepared the next time. lou: do you agree, judy? >> i'm afraid i do agree with john. often times we disagree. lou: the night is young. >> there can be absolutely no dispute that that is an attack on american soil. the egyptians have an obligation to protect the embassy. just as they had an obligation to protect the israeli embassy which they als